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May 3, 2011 18:58:32 GMT -5
Post by fastkid22 on May 3, 2011 18:58:32 GMT -5
I'm not pointing fingers but I feel that the whole accident between Gary and Robby could have been avoided if the flagman would have thrown the yellow.I'm planning on running my pro stock at rattlesnake but that accident on Saturday gave me the chills! I am not going to run at a track when I have to worry about the flagman throwing the yellow when its necessary. I hope that Gary and Robby can both get back on the track ASAP.
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May 3, 2011 19:36:50 GMT -5
Post by racin4fun on May 3, 2011 19:36:50 GMT -5
Fastkid22 even if the flagman would have thrown the yellow flag, the accident would have probably still happened because Robby would have tried to race back to the yellow to keep his position.
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May 3, 2011 19:44:10 GMT -5
Post by spectator on May 3, 2011 19:44:10 GMT -5
Thats easy for anyone to say..And I agree with racin4fun. After seeing the way Robbie acted after the wreck. I dont think its fair of you to point the fingure at the flagman. Thats not an easy job and if you think you can do it better then by all means go talk to Chris. Unfortunatly danger is the name of the game. If you're not willing to accept the dangeres of getting into a race car then you have no business getting into one. But there's alot that comes into play. Gary was up high not in the middle of the track, and coming out of a corner.. But again stuff happens, and it sucks but its just what is...
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May 3, 2011 20:13:55 GMT -5
Post by crazi4racing on May 3, 2011 20:13:55 GMT -5
Crazy wrecks can happen whether or not a yellow was needed or not Example Jay Sears last year in is Mod! Nothing could of been done by track officials to stop that from happening! Everyone takes a chance of wrecks when they decide to race. Name of the game sometimes
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May 3, 2011 20:25:50 GMT -5
Post by greenwalt25 on May 3, 2011 20:25:50 GMT -5
@ spectator, racing is dangerous and as a driver you put your trust into the officials hands to make the right calls when there is a situation on the track. And if an official blows a "call" accidents like this happen, its not like any of the pro ball sports we watch where and its a 10 yard penality and the player gets upset. I know Gary's and Robbies cars are totalled now and they are both looking for new chassis to build. I do not disapprove or approve of Robbie for the way he acted. I understand how he feels, and I am sure the flagman feels bad for what happened. I have not decided if I will ever go back to Fallon to race. But, Chris is doing a better job than the past presidents at Fallon and I am sure that the issues will be corrected as season progresses.
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bigmo
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May 3, 2011 20:47:41 GMT -5
Post by bigmo on May 3, 2011 20:47:41 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to agree with a little of everything said in this thread. Some parts of all are correct. Of this I believe to be true. Flagman had no inkling the 64 car was not going to race after the green he appeared to have intentions to do so. Also, he parked it Or couldn't make it any farther on the track than the Grid entrance exactly where the wall ends and ALL the fast cars end up just barely missing the back wall carring their most speed on any lap. This wreck could not have been avoided. Racing to the yellow was not a part of the equation. Every driver in that race thanks his lucky stars that there wasn't any dust when they went by and could see. Robbie #42 was right behind the #11 and when the 11 did finally see the 64 and swerved and barley missed the 64. The 42 was doomed! No matter who was in that possition it would have happened to them! Thank God that the track officials were there immediately and that both cars were well built and maintaned. The 42 will be back, look different but he will be back. The War Horse also! I can understand being upset, especially right after living through something that horrific. All in all it turned out the best that situtation could have, cars can be replaced, drivers can't!
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May 3, 2011 21:12:23 GMT -5
Post by oldtrackchamp4x on May 3, 2011 21:12:23 GMT -5
The first major problem as i see it is racing to the yellow, which creates a very dangerous situation. Fallon is one of the only tracks on the west coast that races to the yellow. If you don't race to the yellow and an incident arises warranting a yellow, all cars slow down at that specific time making it a lot safer. Keeping track of the lineup is also easier as you just go back to the last completed lap. The second major problem is the block retaining wall between turns 2 and 3, as it juts in towards the track, making this area the narrowest part of the entire track. The blocks toward the end of the back stretch need to be moved back so the entire back stretch is consistent. Think about how many wrecks have happened at that point of the track compared to all the rest of the track. JMO
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May 3, 2011 21:31:24 GMT -5
Post by crazi4racing on May 3, 2011 21:31:24 GMT -5
Rattlesnake stopped racing back to the yellow for awhile but then the racers wanted it back so they allowed drivers to vote and it was decide to race back to the yellow
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May 3, 2011 22:19:40 GMT -5
Post by sikracr on May 3, 2011 22:19:40 GMT -5
JMO Rattlesnake is doin a GREAT job and many drivers r very happy w the results. I appreciate all their efforts since I dont seem to be able to give them any of my time. The track has been designed like that for a long time and hasnt moved. Many races have been raced and many racers have not wrecked due to the wall "jumping out" lol It has everything to do w lifting ur right foot and not hitting the wall. In robbies case the wall had nothing to do w his misfortune. Glad everyone is ok and Chris needs to have a chat w the back straight wall and tell it not to keep jumping in ppls way while racing! lmfao jmo KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK FALLON
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May 3, 2011 23:39:56 GMT -5
Post by fastkid22 on May 3, 2011 23:39:56 GMT -5
I didnt start this thread to talk smack on the flagman or anyone that runs the track especially over the internet. All Im sayin is maybe rattlesnake should look into getting rid of racing to the yellow I mean I understand that accident was just racing but if that rule was done and away with both gary and robbie wouldnt have two smashed up prostocks Maybe rattlesnake will look into it after that accident maybe not but you cant tell me that scared you half to death, they could have easily been seriously hurt What happend to safety first??. I wouldnt wish that on anybody
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May 4, 2011 10:28:50 GMT -5
Post by sikracr on May 4, 2011 10:28:50 GMT -5
So so many if's. If gary didn't break who knows.what would have happened. Come on guys. U guys r beating a "IF" HORSE here. Glad everyone is ok. ;D
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May 4, 2011 12:25:59 GMT -5
Post by flagmandave on May 4, 2011 12:25:59 GMT -5
I was the flagman at Fernley for 6 years and this sounds like something i've seen before. there is not much you could do in this situation. At Fernley in the prostock class Travis Peterson broke and stopped on the track up high just past the start finish line I had the yellow flag out and the other cars raced to the yellow and Big Al slammed the back of his car. It just happens in racing even if the Yellow is out and the flagman waving cars the go to the inside. This is David and I miss seeing all you guys out there racing. AKA Wegi.
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May 4, 2011 13:07:04 GMT -5
Post by prostock95 on May 4, 2011 13:07:04 GMT -5
just ask Billy the 22R hobby about last year at RFR sorry Billy I JK
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May 4, 2011 21:47:40 GMT -5
Post by rd on May 4, 2011 21:47:40 GMT -5
jmo there is a very large positive possibility that if the track was using raceceivers someone could have told the drivers on the track of the dangers ahead of time. a very high percentage of what happened could have been avoided.
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May 4, 2011 22:46:21 GMT -5
Post by luninghd77 on May 4, 2011 22:46:21 GMT -5
what i guess i don,t see is why wasn't the driver looking at what was in front on him . racing to the green will always and always has caused problems.
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